Document:The Professor's Post-TKO Press Conference
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Neither Dr. Bialy nor myself had any intention of publishing the following correspondence in which Professor Moore takes the expression "hoisting oneself on one's own petard" to new heights, until he began broadcasting these expressions of disdain and contempt through other websites, boasting in his letters that he had "bested us" in his emails and that was the reason we refrained from publishing them.
Well, you be the judges. To us, it looks like a vicious gutter fight after the first-round TKO, in which Moore cuts himself badly while staggering around the corner and into the alley where he trips over a garbage can and imitates Humpty Dumpty.
Darin Brown
Moderator
16 June 2006
The Erudite Emails of Professor Poseur
From: bialy harvey <harveybialy@gmail.com>
Date: Jun 9, 2006 6:02 PM
Subject: Look now senor
To: jpm2003@med.cornell.edu
http://www.reviewingaids.com/awiki/index.php/Document:Bialy/Moore_debate
You can expect that it will finds its way into the mainstream very quickly.
Pase un buen fin de semana.
Tryptophan
From: John P. Moore <jpm2003@med.cornell.edu>
Date: Jun 9, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: Look now senor
To: bialy harvey <harveybialy@gmail.com>
It puzzles me only that you would think:
1) That I would not anticipate you would post my email on the website;
2) That I would care if you did.
On the contrary, I anticipated that you would do what you did, and wrote my email accordingly. I WANT the readers of the site (assuming that there are any .....) to know, and fully understand, the depths of contempt in which you and your fellow AIDS denialists are held by me and my fellow scientists. Thanks for helping me get this important message across. If what I wrote is picked up by the mainstream media, so much the better - it will simply provide me with yet another opportunity to state how despised the AIDS denialists are and to emphasize their follies (although the mainstream media fully understands all of this anyway......).
John Moore
From: bialy harvey <harveybialy@gmail.com>
Date: Jun 9, 2006 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: Look now senor
To: "John P. Moore" <jpm2003@med.cornell.edu>
yo, cabron or is it maricon
you know nothing about what the scientific community thinks. nothing. you are a poseur who could not pass our graduate examinations in microbiology.
there is a lot more that puzzles you only you are too flat out dumb to realize it.
how old are you anyway?
is kendall smith still around? give him my best. and ask him what he thinks of me, shmuck.
From: John P. Moore <jpm2003@med.cornell.edu>
Date: Jun 9, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: Look now senor
To: bialy harvey <harveybialy@gmail.com>
How old am I? Old enough not to have been born yesterday, and old enough to understand that the general public needs protection from the pseudo-scientific views that AIDS denialists such as yourself attempt to promote. Also, old enough to know that when an AIDS denialist has no linguistic alternatives to calling his protagonist "dumb" , a "poseur" and a "schmuck", he's lost.......... It's too easy beating you to be at all stimulating mentally, so I'll leave you to reflect on your inadequate use of language and your inability to express yourself any more coherently. I very much hope you post this interchange on your website and pass it onto the mainstream media, as it rather says it all. I doubt that you will, because it takes a brave man to expose his own follies for others to read. I also hope you consult the AIDStruth.org website on a regular basis, for there you might learn much about HIV and AIDS.
John Moore
PS Kendall Smith is a fine scientist who is working very hard to alleviate the sufferings of those afflicted with HIV-1 infection, and to prevent others from becoming infected. Of course, I wouldn't expect an AIDS denialist to know such basic facts; that would be a little too much to hope for, based on your track record.
From: bialy harvey <harveybialy@gmail.com>
Date: Jun 9, 2006 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Look now senor
To: "John P. Moore" <jpm2003@med.cornell.edu>
p.s.
you are very good at chit chat and very lousy at scientific reasoning
i do not need to post any more of this bullshit with and from you
your letter to dr. brown said it all
enjoy the pr schmuck
ask kendall who i am you pendejo
we know each other quite a long time youngster
From: John P. Moore <jpm2003@med.cornell.edu>
Date: Jun 10, 2006 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Look now senor
To: bialy harvey <harveybialy@gmail.com>
You really are very, very silly if you think I would waste one moment of Kendall Smith's time (or mine) discussing you. I'm well aware of who you are, and of your wasted scientific career; there's nothing more I need to know about you. Your style of correspondence speaks volumes as to why you and your fellow AIDS denialists are regarded with derision by bona fide scientists and activists.
Of course you won't post this correspondence, as it would expose you and your communication skills (sic) for others to see. As usual, then, an AIDS denialist will engage in selective editing, cherry-picking of what's convenient to present, and a lack of respect for the totality of the available evidence. I expected nothing less from you, of course; an AIDS denialist behaving with integrity is as likely to happen as a leopard changing its spots.
I don't intend to spend further time communicating with AIDS denialists such as you. As I have said, we will continue to expose your deceitful, quack science to the public when protecting them against you. The one thing we won't do, however, is to enter a dialog/debate with you and your ilk. It was really remarkably pretentious of you to even imagine that we regard you as operating on an intellectual level at which a scientific "debate" would be in any appropriate. It's not; there's nothing to debate, and all that needs be done is to ensure the public fully understands the truth, something that we are far better at than you are, always were, and always will be.
John Moore
Moderator's comments
This moron has no problem going on and on in endless internet chatter like a schoolboy, but cannot bring himself to present or defend a single scientific argument. The dissidents know the scientific literature on HIV/AIDS better than the authors, and yet the ultra-orthodoxy is proud of the fact that they are ignorant of what dissidents publish in the same literature, and they rely on religious internet websites that themselves rely on non-peer-reviewed tracts as their gospels.
The most common of these tracts are the Durban Declaration and an anonymous NIH document "The Evidence That HIV Causes AIDS". These have both been meticulously and completely refuted, yet predictably "Team Virus" never made the bell for round two:
Unlike the ultra-orthodoxy, we have no problem publishing any response from Dr. Moore.
Darin Brown
Moderator
16 June 2006
Moore Takes on The Moderator
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